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Soundgarden: “Meet Ben Shepherd” [City Heat – August 1990]

August 1990 CityHeat Cover

August 1990 CityHeat Cover

Soundgarden. Yeah! City Heat’s got ’em. Had to travel for it tho. You think these guys would make it easy for Seattle’s Music Magazine by granting an interview in Seattle? No way! So we motored down to Portland for their show with Alice In Chains at the Melody Lane Ballroom on July 25th. Okay, truth is we were stoked for the road trip and the killer double bill!

Getting dinner and a photo shoot behind them, we sat down with Kim, Chris and Ben to get the exclusive poop. What’s that? Ben who? you say? On their records you know Hiro Yamamoto was playing bass. Then after the release of Louder Than Love you heard about Jason Everman dropping six in Nirvana to play four in Soundgarden. Now, who’s this Ben chap of which we speak?

Briefly, 21 year old Ben Shepherd has lived and played on Bainbridge Island for the past 18 years. Some of you relics out there may remember him from the days of Gorilla Gardens and The Metropolis when he was in, what he termed, a melodic punk rock band called March Of Crimes. Laying low, he’s since sang, played nad wrote for a band (who shall remain nameless) that played a very few shows in island towns before its swift demise.
Then from out of his relative obscurity, he is suddenly an integral cog in the critically acclaimed machine that is Soundgarden. We asked Ben to tell us the whole story of his transformation into SG’s ‘politically correct’ bassist.

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Soundgarden

Ben Shepherd: “Well, I’ve known Kim for a while, so he hunted me down and asked me to try out.”
City Heat: “Then what?”
BS: “Then they, ah………they fucked up (laughter all around).”
CH: “Like how?”
BS: “They took the wrong bass player.”
Chris Cornell: “Actually I had a dream, Ben. Did I tell you that? I had a dream I was in a room with your brother, apologizing to him for not choosing you in the first place. [Again addressing me] That was after we’d already chosen him.”

After Louder Than Love came out they held auditions for bass players. When Hiro decided to travel a different path it left the band in a lurch with not-a-lot of time to spend deliberating over a replacement.
BS: “I practiced or jammed with them a couple of times, I didn’t even know their songs worth a crap tho at all. But it was totally fun jamming with them. I hadn’t jammed with anyone for a while and it was flattering as fuck.”
CH: “Then what happened? You came in, jammed about a week….”
BS: “Not even a week, twice. Then Jason knew the songs better and they were in a really awkward bind at that time. They had the record out and needed to tour immediately, so they had to make a quick choice. So they chose Jason and the chemistry didn’t work.”
By the end of the tour they’d made up their minds to give the job to Ben.
CC: “We made the decision to play with Ben simultaneously with deciding that Jason wasn’t the right guy.”
Although both players had auditioned at the same time last year, member replacement is seldom easy and far from an exact science.
CC: “You can’t predict from a few meetings exactly what someone’s gonna be like and how they’re going to interact with the band. Mainly musically, but in most ways, we just didn’t click. It wasn’t anything necessarily ‘wrong’ with Jason. Band chemistry is really fragile so you can’t just make a choice and be one hundred percent correct.
CH: “So they got home and Kim called you up?” What did he say to you, ‘you’re on the team’?”
BS: “Actually Chris asked me. We were all looking at his little dog, hanging out at Chris’ place and he said, ‘Well, we were wondering what you’d think about playing with us?’. I just looked at my shoes real quick, ‘Fuck yeah!'”
So they had a few days to practice and after playing a couple opening numbers for Alice at the Lake City Concert Hall, were whisked off to Europe. The opening date of that tour happened to be the festival in Roskilde, Denmark.
CC: “His first actual show with us was in front of about 5,000 people.”
Karen Mason: “Was that a rush, first time going out?”
BS: “Well it was definitely a rush knowing my bass was plugged into a direct recording thing. That tripped me out ’cause the could hear every little sound.”
CC: “We were being recorded for broadcast by some radio station over there.”
After playing another big festival and a few more club dates, they’re back stateside and working up new material together. The band as a whole seems to gel well and all are contributing to the new songs. They’ve got a song on the soundtrack fro an upcoming movie and for those fortunate (intelligent?) enough to be members of Sub Pop’s Single of the Month Club, a tasty surprise.
The seven inch featuring H.I.V. Baby (produced by their sound man, Stuart Hallerman) will be available only to those elite peoples. But that’s not to say you may never find the tunes on a future full-length. Cornell likens Sheperd’s contribution (“H.I.V. Baby”) to a 90’s feeling “My Generation”.
CH: “What’s on the B-side?”
Kim Thayil: “Room A Thousand Years Wide.”
CH: “So you wrote H.I.V. Baby and play on both tracks?”
BS: “Yeah.”
CC: “Actually we were deciding between three songs that were his, but we have trouble with that kind of thing. If somebody writes for a movie or a single or something, a lot of times the songs will end up better than we’d expected and we want to save it for a record. So we kept juggling all these songs and couldn’t decide what to use.”
Next up is another (another? yes, another) U.S. leg supporting their Louder Than Love tour. Once the tour is finally over, they’ll be thinking about a new album which will be recorded either here in Seattle, Vancouver, B.C. or San Francisco. Just about anywhere but Los Angeles which, they all agree and inform me, is ‘completely uninspiring’.

Ben Shepherd onstage at Melody Lane Ballroom, Portland, OR.

Ben Shepherd onstage at Melody Lane Ballroom, Portland, OR, July 25, 1990.

Shots from this photo shoot are available directly from Karen Mason-Blair.
http://karenmasonblair.com/

 

 

Paisley Sin: Hot Flashes [City Heat – July 1990]

Paisley SinJuly 1990 City Heat Cover
It’s Not Just A Hobby… It’s A Hassle
Inde Demo Tape

Listening to Z-Rock the other day, I was somewhat surprised to hear The Secret on  that station. Then it occurred to me that the song rocks plenty for their format.

Which brought me back to, ‘Why was I surprised’?
I’ve had this tape for about a year now and I guess I just finally realized how versatile Paisley Sin is. From the denying Ain’t Nothin‘ to the starry night feel of Tribute to the funky, tongue-in-cheek This Is The Life, back to the heavy Out & Down.

This bass-driven collection of tunes runs the gamut. As such, it proves to be a good reference point but still nothing compared to the live Sin. However, it is a must for Seattle aficionados.

Looking forward, now more than ever, to their next release!

Breda: Hot Flashes [City Heat – July 1990]

BredaJuly 1990 City Heat Cover
Breda
Inde Demo Tape

Formerly Jinxx from Seattle club gigging, Breda has a demo showing their mainstream pop-metal expertise. Very radio/MTV accessible! Having a namesake moniker is not all these guys have in common with the likes of Winger and Dokken.
Except for the whining on Suicide Love, it’s a very nice collection of tunes any pre-pubescent girl would swoon over.

Mother Love Bone: “First LOVE Issue” [City Heat – April 1990]

Hello and welcome, babies! Let me plug you into this feeling known as Mother Love Bone, whose mission it is to let their love rock energy shine down on the waiting populace. As many of you are well aware Mother Love Bone is one of Seattle’s prize exports of late and on the eve of the release of their PolyGram LP, Apple, City Heat had the opportunity to speak with the Bone about their feelings on recording albums, the record itself and anticipation. So without further ado, who loves you?

April 1990 City Heat Cover
Mother Love Bone came about thru the friendship and collaberation between Andrew Wood (then in Malfunkshun with Regan Hagar and Kevin Wood) and Stone Gossard with Jeff Ament (both in Green River with Bruce Fairweather, Mark Arm and Alex Shumway) a year before the conception of MLB.
Jeff Ament uncovers the beginnings, “Andy and [Malfunkshun’s] drummer, Regan, and me and Stone all knew each other kind of as friends, so a year before Green River even broke up, we got together and learned about six covers. Zeppelin and Aerosmith stuff, just us four. At that point we were called Lords Of The Wasteland. We totally just did it to have fun and do things we’d never do inside our respective bands. Then when me and Stone were trying to get something going after Green River… I don’t know, things just kind of fell into place. Within a month we were jamming with Greg [Gilmore] and Bruce. At that point we already had six or seven new songs. Then by late January, early February [1988], we went in and just live…cut five songs in four or five hours for our demo, purely for us to get shows.”
The sticky part was that Green River was officially past tense, whereas Malfunkshun had yet to be discussed. When Wood parted ways with his best friend and his brother he made a very tough decision.
Hagar tells me, “Andy felt really terrible about replacing me and that’s kind of too bad because I understood that it was a business decision, and the very best one he could make then.”
The group enlisted the considerable percussive talents of Greg Gilmore, best known for his work with The Living and Ten-Minute Warning. Returning from Asia in late 1987, Gilmore says, “The very day I came back to Seattle, I rn into Stone up on Broadway after being in town just a few hours. He asked me if I wanted to come play sometime. I did a couple, three weeks later and that was it.”
He adds, “At the time I didn’t really know what was going on. The first or second time I was there and Regan showed up was when I learned that Regan had been playing with them. Because all of a sudden everybody was very uncomfortable and silently started to put their guitars away. We were still just in the ‘come down and jam with us’ phase and see what we all think. It was only the second time and even then it was kinda happening already.”
It was that magic in the combination of members that began to manifest itself in some fantastically creative songs that would soon capture the attention of everyone who heard them. When recording their first demo that Ament mentioned earlier, he adds, “…even when we were recording, I think we all knew it was something pretty special. It was just totally spine tingling in the studio most of the time. We just knew what was happening…it was just…it’s cool. Definitely something special.”
Now, with  minimum of tribulation, they had cemented their line up and were getting shows. The next year was spent being courted by labels, looking at signing with Geffen, only to end up with PolyGram in one of the biggest contracts ever for a band with no released material.
I asked Wood about the reputed seven record, quarter million deal. “I don’t really know the whole logistics of it. I know we got signed for $250,000 and seven albums, and I know now that we’re broke and that we could also get dropped at any point.”
He added that depending on the success of this release they could renegotiate everything anyway. So the original deal could still be pointless, but speaking of the record, let’s.
Tracked last fall [1989] at The Plant in Sausalito and completed in January at London Bridge, Apple is a huge album in sound, style and content. Wood paint poignant lyrical pictures within Love Bone’s distinctive instrumental fabric. Produced in connection with local session star Terry Date and mixed by a Brit, Wood tells us about the finished product.
“It’s a really weird album because when we finished it with Terry it sounded completely different than what it sounds like now because a guy by the name of
Tim Palmer got to mix it. He’s a guy from England, I’ve never met, who worked with Robert Plant’s Now and Zen record and Tin Machine’s album and he did an amazing mixing job on it. It sounds completely different.”
“I don’t know if Terry was very pleased – it was Terry’s baby and he was like ‘what did he do to my project?’ – but he made it really spacey. It sounds like I would have mixed it.”
Others were so glad to just have it completed finally after spending so much time and money that their opinions reflect… almost relief. Gilmore opines on the final mix, “I don’t know if I’m really happy with it. I’m satisfied. At first I thought, ‘that’s fine’, I didn’t care. Then I started listening to it, first time, I was ‘whatever’. Second time, I’m like, ‘I really don’t dig it’, now I’m thinkin’ it’s alright. It’s not what…”
I interject, “not the way you envisioned it?”
“Ideally, no. But Tim Palmer was the one guy that we all agreed on without hesitation on anyone’s part. He happened to be available, fine give it to him, let’s do it. If we don’t just go with this, we’re gonna end up monkeyfucking the thing until the fall of 1992.”

They’ve spent a lot of time over this past year waiting, waiting, waiting for things to happen. As soon as this does, then that will. Before their January show at Legends – just after Gilmore had cut his hair – I asked about how waiting and the anticipation was affecting them.
Gilmore: “It’s been pretty tedious lately. It’s been a lot of waiting.”
Wood: “A lot of hurry up and wait.”
Browning: “Is that what caused you to shave your head, Greg?”
Gilmore: “Actually it might have had an effect on my hairdo!”
Wood: Some of us are more anxious than others. Myself, I’m kind of really happy about this time we have right now before the tour starts, because I’ve got things to do as far as getting myself together. When we got back from Sausalito I went into rehab for thirty days, so I’m pleased to have time to feel a little more stable in the real world before we go out and assault. Then others of us are really chomping at the bit because it is a lot of sitting around.”
Browning: “But that’s really nothing new to you guys is it?”
Gilmore: “No, signing, finding a producer, recording can all take more time than you could possibly think. The one thing, I can say in our whole career so far, that happened on schedule was recording the EP, which pretty much went down on time like we had talked about it. I think we even started on it before we were signed. But then we waited for the EP to come out, we waited to go on tour, we started to look for a producer for the LP before the tour of the EP, before the release of the EP.”
Wood: “We did that real cheaply and real fast, in like, five days. Now it sounds like we recorded it in five days.”
Browning: So is the fact that you recorded Shine in five days and then spent over three months on Apple going to be pretty noticeable?”
Wood: “I think you will find that, yes, definitely.”
Browning: “Okay!”
Wood: “Without question!”

Apple has 13 songs totaling about an hour of music, including new mixes of two songs from Shine, Capricorn Sister (originally titled Mother Love Bone) and Crown of Thorns (minus Chloe Dancer). The other guitar ballad, Stargazer, and two piano ballads (Man of Golden Words and Gentle Groove) are prime examples of Wood’s haunting lyrics and immense talent as a songwriter. While the whole album is compelling, these close glimpses are captivating.
Stardog Champion and Captain Hi-Top provide rich, over-the-top anthems to sing along with as Heartshine and This Is Shangrila are good tunes to just groove to. April 17 and April 30 have both come up as release dates, love rock awaits you people. Don’t hesitate. Pick up Apple and give it a listen, always remembering that… love reigns supreme.

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